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April 18, 2009

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May

Yikes. I really hope they don't put a black dot by my name. That sounds like a pain in the ass.

People talk about leftists here as if we're lepers. I, too, am not sure how we came to this.

Olivia Azat

if they do that to us , it is because they fear their own shadows. they are insecure. yes I also was stopped at the airport security and was tagged only because of my name, even though I don't look middleastern they say. all we have to do is look them in the eye, and you can see the guilt and insecurity there. we will win and be granted the rights of every God given gift. most of all the freedom to be who we are and say what we think.

Yishay Mor

Dear Leila,

I'm proud to be on your side. I'm ashamed and sorry for the security man, and all his kind, who think they are protecting Israel by harassing you. But let us be different. He may see you or me as his enemies, let us not see him as ours.

Olivia Azat

if you noticed in the article Yishay, that he was not seen as the enemy. he was pitied for the feelings that he induced. it is a shame whenever two people are living in the same lands as niegbors but seen as enemies. justice should be experienced by every human bieng. not just select few. we are fighting the occupation and humiliations, and stripping of dignity to our people. we are not fighting the people. we fight the rules that sentence us to this degredation

Yishay Mor

Dear Olivia, I was refering to "Seventy years after our grandparents fled, yours and mine, we’ve turned each other into enemies." As for fighting against occupation and humiliation, I'm with you on this one - all the way.

Olivia Azat

Yishay do you live in israel?

Olivia Azat

if you lived in israel and see what the palestinian have to endure on an everyday level, you will understand why they get mad and frustrated. we the palestinians are not hatefull people. but put anyone in a prision cell for a long period of time and he is eventually going to either retaliate or he is going to fold up and die. the palestinians will never fold up or die, it is in thier blood to stand up and fight for their honor and for their freedom. the people of palestine and israel don't want the war, at least the majority of the people, they want to live in peace and raise their kids in a peacefull and loving enviornment free from hatred, greed, and war.we all want that for our kids. what sadness is that the zionist movement is taking their revenge for what happened in germany to thier ancestors out on the palestinians who welcomed them amongst their midst when no one else did.

Yishay Mor

I am an Israeli, living in London for the last few years. Google me. And I agree with almost every word you said. Almost.

Olivia Azat

that is the beauty of freedom and communication we can state our opinions but we don't impose them on others.lol

maybe it shoudl be people like us doing the negotions for peace not our govt. lol

hope your day is great. stay healthy and happy

Dorit Abramovitch

important, beautifuly described and written

Mohamed

So you're a 'radical', Leila? :-)

The Israeli security establishment seems to be in a very narrow-minded, may I say Bush-esque, approach - if you don't fully agree with us, then you're against us. Apparently even if you're Israeli..

And re: your computer: it wasn't 'lost', it was being copied. They do that fairly often, so much that I've had colleagues working for NGOs in Palestine painstakingly change the names of the files on their computer to confuse the eventual policeman who'll be browsing through their hard drive.
Same for the phone - they copy your phone memory, numbers and text messages and all...

Leila

Mohamed - yes, 'radical' is how my friend Nilly described me, and probably they see it that way too. It's funny, isn't it, that what just seems normal and right should be so described. And yes, I suspect they copied my hard drive - this is what friends in Israel told me too.

Olivia Azat

maybe the next time we travel with our lap tops we should give them something juicy to copy. it'S A THOUGHT.LOL

Leila

PS Mohamed, I'll amend the text to reflect this as I think it's important and the implication was obviously not clear enough.

Yishay Mor

Olivia - Or encrypt it http://www.truecrypt.org/ so they have to ask you for your files explicitly. Although that might turbo-charge their paranoia

Leila - this may be naive, but had you considered an official complaint? through the embassy or your MP?

Leila

Yishay - yes, it's a good idea. My friend Uri, an Israeli activist also suggested this. I was thinking, my experience was nothing compared to what some go through - but he says every complaint makes it harder for them to continue with the abuse unchecked.

Yishay Mor

Suffering cannot be measured and compared. I know what you're feeling, thinking what is this compared to the daily ordeals of any Palestinian in the West bank, Gaza or even Israel. But this is your testimony, your unjustice, and your right (and as much as you can bear it, obligation) to fight. Besides, you have an advantage: your voice stands a chance of being heard. Use that advantage, and carry with you the voices of those who are silenced.

mya

hi leila,

recently, i was in europe and on my way back to israel, on my layover in kiev, the el al folks gave me QUITE a difficult time. my story is more or less the same as yours, with an additional twist-- there were two arab israeli passengers receiving the same treatment as i was. in fact, we were also seated together on the plane-- the three of us in a tidy line, in the second to last row in the back of the aircraft.

it was upsetting to me to be treated in this manner. and it was humiliating, as well. i've always felt upset and angry when i see police men in tel aviv checking the papers of arabs, but this experience made the feeling of indignation even more palpable... and i think that such treatment definitely doesn't do a lot to make steps towards peace...

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